The Last Countdown

Originally published on Friday, January 11, 2013 at 10:14 in German at

On January 9, 2013, I received a message from a brother that gave me the opportunity to finally sit down and do the homework to give a tutoring session to those of you who still cannot correctly classify the anti-time-setting quotes of Ellen White. Actually, anyone who has thought about the Orion Clock and the Vessel of Time should think about Ellen White's quotations regarding time-setting even deeper, to not use them blindly. First I quote the letter from this brother, and afterward the answer that I sent him yesterday. Since he is the editor of a conservative Adventist magazine, I asked for permission to give his name, and he agreed. We thank him for the courage.

Mail from Erich Schultze to John Scotram on January 9, 2013
Subject: A word of advice

Dear Brother Scotram:

Today the editor of the "Voice of the Remnant," your brother in faith Erich Schultze, writes you once more in order to give you brotherly counsel.

God has given you good skills, as expressed e.g. in your very valuable essay about the lunar Sabbaths and astronomical calculations, as well as the confirmation of basic Adventist teachings. Also your vivid and humorous style of writing had spoken to me.

Nevertheless, I already saw at first glance that you were on the wrong track on the Orion question and time-setting. Ellen White warned against time-fixing several times, a selection of which you can find at the end in the attachment. You'll probably say that you already know all that, and as it always happens, unfortunately, say that it was not meant that way, etc., etc.

Therefore, and because I had already read similar rebuttals on your homepage, I was already sure that the quotes from Ellen White would hardly impress you. If I only read the title of Selected Messages, book 1, chapter 23, page 187 (German edition) [English, page 185] "Beware of Any Time Setting", at least for me, the case is perfectly clear, and I mean, you are unfortunately on the wrong track. Well - a red light can be overlooked in the heat of the moment and if you're already quite involved in the matter.

Since you had determined for yourself that in 2012 something special was going to happen in the world - there was talk of fireballs - I wanted to wait for 2012 to be sure that this prediction would not come true. Now we are in the year 2013. After visiting your website, I expected an explanation of why the event did not happen, hoping that you would now admit your mistake, but the time was extended to the year 2013. Now this is the second red light, which you are obviously overlooking.

And then your own account about the alleged Prophet Ernie Knoll, who would not acknowledge you and of whom you would have discovered many shortcomings. This is the third red light.

Dear Brother Scotram, I beg you, wake up at last. Unfortunately, you have not followed the clear statements of the Spirit of Prophecy, you have not taken your consequence from your wrong prediction and you still try to grasp at the straws of Ernie Knoll's dreams, even though it is more than obvious that he is anything but a prophet of God.

So many times I was confronted with brethren who talked about their dreams, impressions and feelings, supposedly from God, with peculiar views conflicting with the Bible. Satan wants to keep us from the real work of God and the proclamation of the three angels' messages, and give us exciting feelings and intoxicating false ideas. Not only ourselves, but also others are drawn in and affected and ultimately comes the collapse. Do you really want even the year 2013 to expire and then still wait the year 2014 and then what? It would be a shame to see you and those who have taken the same wrong path to perish. The only one who rubs his hands, is the one who promised Eve divine knowledge. The question to you and me is: can we see that we are just poor sinners before God, and fall short of the glory we should have with God - just as the tax collector in prayer before God? And do we give Him our hearts on a daily basis, so that the Holy Spirit changes us more and more into the image of Jesus?

We could both work together for the glory of God in giving the three angels' messages and sounding the Loud Cry with great joy and holy zeal, but how long do I have to wait for you?

I hope you are not upset because of my frank words, but it hurts my soul that you always continue to run toward disaster. May God be near you and give insight and a new beginning.

With my best wishes,

Your brother in the Lord

Erich Schultze

[Author's note: The mail attachment included the anti-time-setting quotes, which are now all re-published in my reply. Therefore they will not be quoted here again.]

Reply from John Scotram to Erich Schultze on January 10, 2013

Dear Brother Erich Schultze,

First, a heart-felt thank you for your mail with the subject "A word of advice." As I could gather from your respectful and caring lines, you really are concerned about my/our salvation and do not despise new light from the outset. This is to your great credit, as it is not the norm these days. I express my thanks to you in particular for the fact that through your polite writing you give me the opportunity to finally respond to the recurring anti-time-setting arguments of my/our opponents, which are usually delivered in very rude form, but which I would like to address now in a brotherly and analytical way, if you don't mind.

On slide 128 of the Orion study, I wrote about the Laodicean character: “They are those who use texts against these studies because of time-setting, which they did not even understand because they are spiritually poor, blind and naked. They do not look for the truth because they think they have already grasped everything with their own brilliant minds.”

Now I would like to show you which church of Revelation you (unfortunately still) belong to...

You send me a few quotes from Ellen White in relation to "time setting" and turn them against my studies without understanding the time in which we live and what Ellen White's true task was. I will also show you that you and many others are just SDA-extras in the heavenly theater of the "Great Controversy," although you should be true Adventists again.

You take your first quote from "Early Writings":

The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time; but the third angel’s message is stronger than time can be. I saw that this message can stand on its own foundation and needs not time to strengthen it; and that it will go in mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness. {EW 75.1}

To understand this and many other quotes, one must continue to read instead of tearing it out of context. When we do that, we learn that this quote comes from a vision that Ellen White received in 1851. Here is the rest of what she wrote:

“I saw some were making everything bend to this next fall; that is, making their calculations, and disposing of their property in reference to that time. I saw that this was wrong for this reason: instead of going to God daily, and earnestly desiring to know their present duty, they looked ahead, and made their calculations as though they knew that the work would end this fall, without inquiring their duty of God daily. {1SM 188.4} E. G. White. “Copied at Milton, June 29, 1851, A. A. G.” {1SM 189.1}

Now we need to place this quote in its proper time-frame and understand that the entire time of the third angel's message is divided into two main sections:

  1. The time before 1888-1890 when the church still had the opportunity to go directly to heaven, and
  2. The period after 1890, after the church had missed its chance and had to wander in the wilderness again.

Accordingly, Haskell's quote of Ellen G. White says:

The Church Ship in danger"I saw that Jones and Waggoner had their counterpart in Joshua and Caleb. As the children of Israel stoned the spies with literal stones, you have stoned these brethren with stones of sarcasm and ridicule. I saw that you willfully rejected what you knew to be truth, just because it was too humiliating to your dignity. I saw some of you in your tents mimicking and making all manner of fun of these two brethren. I also saw that if you had accepted their message, we would have been in the kingdom two years from that date, but now we have to go back into the wilderness and there stay forty years." Written from Melbourne, Australia, May 9, 1892.

This quote is often attacked by the BRI, but it comes from a sincere source. Here is the opinion of the anti-time-setters about this:

In the Union Conference Record in 1899, Steven N. Haskell, a long-time friend and supporter of Ellen White wrote in an article entitled “The Third Angel’s Message,” as follows: “Do you think we are in the last days? We are in the last days of the very last generation. We are ten years in the loud cry of the Third Angel's Message. There is a testimony in the Bulletin, published in 1892, which says: ‘If the people of God had gone to work as they should have gone to work right after the Minneapolis meeting in 1888, the world could have been warned in two years, and the Lord would have come.’ God designed to close the work just in proportion as His people felt the importance and sacredness of the work and the zeal with which they took hold of it.”

Many scholars would be quick to point out that Haskell must have got it wrong because there was no General Conference Bulletin published in 1892. Although he did get his source wrong, it is hard to believe that someone as prominent in the Church as Haskell would have fabricated a lie and attributed to Ellen White something she never said or wrote. This one thing we do know from the quotes we have already looked at, Ellen White certainly believed that by 1896, God’s people could have been in the Promised Land if they had been faithful.

Finally, by 1901, Ellen White wrote the following: “We may have to remain here in this world because of insubordination many more years, as did the children of Israel; but for Christ's sake, His people should not add sin to sin by charging God with the consequence of their own wrong course of action.--Letter 184, 1901.” (Excerpt from Chapter 8 of "Prophetic Parallels" by Adrian Welsh available at

It should be clear to you that the Adventist Church has fulfilled the type of the Israelites under Moses during the Exodus, who also missed their first chance to enter into Canaan.

Shall we also miss our second chance, because of misapplied and misinterpreted quotes of Ellen White, that were given by God for a specific time and purpose?

The vision itself, from which all Ellen White anti-time-setting quotations are derived, is dated 1851, a time BEFORE Minneapolis, when the Adventist Church should have gone to heaven with the third angel's message alone, through the powerful and concise gift of "Justification by Faith" brought by Waggoner and Jones.

Ellen White said:

...that it [the message] will go with mighty power, and do its work, and will be CUT SHORT in righteousness. {1SM 188.3}

God spoke clearly about two messages in this vision of Ellen White: 1. the Three Angels' message (it [the message]) that should be brought to a sudden end, by 2. the message of Waggoner and Jones (Righteousness by Faith).

We all know from the bitter experiences of the messenger of God herself that this did NOT come to pass.

The critics of Ellen G. White from the ranks of Adventism's enemies make the same mistake by not putting many of the quotes of the messenger of God in their temporal context and they don't see the two large periods of time before and after Minneapolis. Thus they cannot understand that some of the prophecies of the Spirit of Prophecy were clearly conditional and related to the case that the people would have accomplished their God-given duties in the right way and the right time (before 1890).

Here are some well-known examples from the compilation "Last Day Events":

Ellen White Expected Christ’s Return in Her Day

I was shown the company present at the Conference. Said the angel: “Some food for worms, some subjects of the seven last plagues, some will be alive and remain upon the earth to be translated at the coming of Jesus.”—Testimonies For The Church 1:131, 132 (1856). {LDE 36.3}

Because time is short, we should work with diligence and double energy. Our children may never enter college.—Testimonies for the Church 3:159 (1872). {LDE 36.4}

It is really not wise to have children now. Time is short, the perils of the last days are upon us, and the little children will be largely swept off before this.—Letter 48, 1876. {LDE 36.5}

In this age of the world, as the scenes of earth’s history are soon to close and we are about to enter upon the time of trouble such as never was, the fewer the marriages contracted the better for all, both men and women.—Testimonies for the Church 5:366 (1885). {LDE 37.1}

The hour will come; it is not far distant, and some of us who now believe will be alive upon the earth, and shall see the prediction verified, and hear the voice of the archangel and the trump of God echo from mountain and plain and sea to the uttermost parts of the earth.—The Review and Herald, July 31, 1888. {LDE 37.2}

The time of test is just upon us, for the loud cry of the third angel has already begun in the revelation of the righteousness of Christ, the sin-pardoning Redeemer.—Selected Messages 1:363 (1892). {LDE 37.3}

The title of this section is "Ellen White Expected Christ’s Return in Her Day" which clearly turned out to be a false expectation. These unfulfilled prophecies are often used by opponents against Ellen White. To defend her against the charge of being a false prophet, the reasons for these unfulfilled prophecies are given in the same book:

The Delay Explained

The long night of gloom is trying, but the morning is deferred in mercy, because if the Master should come so many would be found unready.—Testimonies for the Church 2:194 (1868). {LDE 37.4}

Had Adventists after the great disappointment in 1844 held fast their faith and followed on unitedly in the opening providence of God, receiving the message of the third angel and in the power of the Holy Spirit proclaiming it to the world, they would have seen the salvation of God, the Lord would have wrought mightily with their efforts, the work would have been completed, and Christ would have come ere this to receive His people to their reward.... It was not the will of God that the coming of Christ should be thus delayed.... {LDE 37.5}

For forty years did unbelief, murmuring, and rebellion shut out ancient Israel from the land of Canaan. The same sins have delayed the entrance of modern Israel into the heavenly Canaan. In neither case were the promises of God at fault. It is the unbelief, the worldliness, unconsecration, and strife among the Lord’s professed people that have kept us in this world of sin and sorrow so many years.—Evangelism, 695, 696 (1883). {LDE 38.1}

Had the church of Christ done her appointed work as the Lord ordained, the whole world would before this have been warned and the Lord Jesus would have come to our earth in power and great glory.—The Desire of Ages, 633, 634 (1898). {LDE 38.2}

The vision of 1851, which—as already mentioned—ALL Ellen G. White anti-time-setting statements are based on, clearly came before 1888-1890 and predicted a good outcome and a shortening of the work. The condition itself which you omitted from your quotation was given in the second part of the vision:

“I saw some were making everything bend to this next fall; that is, making their calculations, and disposing of their property in reference to that time. I saw that this was wrong for this reason: instead of going to God daily, and earnestly desiring to know their present duty, they looked ahead, and made their calculations as though they knew that the work would end this fall, without inquiring their duty of God daily. {1SM 188.4} E. G. White. “Copied at Milton, June 29, 1851, A. A. G.” {1SM.189.1}

Here you can clearly see that the vision was given because of the misconduct of some of the adventists of that time. The vision has a unique time context for the autumn of 1851. It cannot be simply carried into our own time, partly because of the major disappointment of 1890 and partly because we are already in the time of the latter rain after the big 120-year (3 × 40) wilderness wandering of the unfaithful Advent people.

The failure of the former generation of adventists was that they were not "going to God daily, and earnestly desiring to know their present duty" and in "looking ahead" they only had the future in mind. They did not ask God every day what He expected from them and they did not realize that the work could have been finished without a further time message if only they had faithfully preached the third angel's message.

The vision thus shows that the work could have been "cut short" and that the third angel's message would have succeeded without the preaching of time IF the church had remained faithful. The full Fourth Angel's message would not have been necessary.

Our research has even shown that the tribulation would have also been cut short and no YEAR of plagues would have taken place. This can be readily seen from the fact that in 1888, Sunday laws were already in place but there were not three-a-half years' time until the fall of 1890. Christ created the earth in six days, and therefore He can and would have also destroyed it in 6 days.

So if we look at Ellen White's anti-time-setting quotes, we must never lose sight of the purpose for which and the period during which they were written, or we will make the same mistake as the opponents of Ellen White and Adventism, and run the risk of not only making her a false prophet but abusing and misinterpreting the statements to our own destruction.

Those who do not consider these circumstances but use the quotes of Ellen White with blind and prejudiced fanaticism against the now necessary light of the Fourth Angel (of the Holy Spirit in the latter rain) do not heed the warning of the Apostle Peter, and they do with Ellen White what many do with Paul to attack Adventism based on his statements about the (ceremonial) Sabbaths and the (supposedly allowed) eating of meat:

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. (2 Peter 3:15-16)

However, Ellen G. White received not only a conditional prophecy of the entrance of the Advent people to the heavenly Canaan for 1890 which failed, but she also saw what would have to happen if the light of the Fourth Angel must come to the rescue in the latter rain of the third angel's message if the Lord's Plan A would fail on account of the stubbornness of His people and a long journey through the desert would have to ensue:

Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven, and I heard voices which seemed to sound everywhere, “Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.” This message seemed to be an addition to the third message, joining it as the midnight cry joined the second angel’s message in 1844. The glory of God rested upon the patient, waiting saints, and they fearlessly gave the last solemn warning, proclaiming the fall of Babylon and calling upon God’s people to come out of her that they might escape her fearful doom. {EW 277.2}

Soon we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus’ coming. The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spoke the time, He poured upon us the Holy Ghost, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God, as Moses’ did when he came down from Mount Sinai. {EW 14.1}

Those who do not receive the latter rain do not understand the voice of God and mistake the time announcement for "thunder". This is a very serious warning to the anti-time-setters, given as of Ellen G. White's very first vision in December 1844!

During my very detailed study of the relevant quotes of Ellen White over the last seven years, I noticed that the same apparent contradiction in the quotes of Ellen White about time-setting also exists in the Bible itself in the same way.

Just compare these:

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. (Mark 13:32)

Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. (Revelation 3:3)

Any serious Bible student should realize that they must harmonize the Bible with itself in order to avoid ultimately discarding it entirely. You must always put the quotes in their proper logical and historical context, otherwise you suffer shipwreck, sinking beneath the waves of confusion.

The whole Advent Movement is a movement which started with time-setters and their successors, among whom was also Ellen Harmon (White). In the first Midnight Cry they experienced a disappointment, but it resulted in a flood of light: the sanctuary doctrine. Only those who enter into the sanctuary are able to experience the light of the Fourth Angel, and after 1844 only those who enter the Holy of Holies will be with Jesus in the Kingdom. The Advent people would have to learn from their history, and especially from their terrible mistake in 1888-1890. It was good for them not to know during their lonely desert wandering when it would end, so that no one would repeat the mistake of 1888 and look only at the future. However, there would come a time when the Midnight Cry must be repeated, because through apostasy the third angel's message had lost the strength with which it could have stood alone in 1888-1890. There had to come a revival and reformation that would surpass the Midnight Cry of 1844, and this would only be possible through the work of the Holy Spirit Himself.

In The Great Controversy, Ellen White wrote that the Millerites had found a logical and correct explanation for the apparent contradiction between the warnings of Jesus in the Bible with respect to time and their announcing of the time in the Midnight Cry which supposedly even the Lord Himself did not know.

“No man knoweth the day nor the hour” was the argument most often brought forward by rejecters of the advent faith. The scripture is: “Of that day and hour knoweth no man, no not the angels of heaven, but My Father only.” Matthew 24:36. A clear and harmonious explanation of this text was given by those who were looking for the Lord, and the wrong use made of it by their opponents was clearly shown. {GC 370.2}

Although Ellen White says later in the passage that the exact date was not known but only the knowledge of the nearness of the coming of Jesus, which for her time was the correct conviction, we must not forget what she confirmed with her statement: namely, that Miller and his "naughty" time-setting companions, especially with Samuel Snow who had really set the day and the hour to October 22, 1844, had given a clear and correct interpretation of these Bible texts. Thus the many arguments of the anti-time-setters collapse, because Ellen White confirms that there is a correct interpretation of this passage which allows it to state that the day and the hour can be known.

The proper harmonization of this apparent contradiction in the Bible can be reached in the same way that all the other contradictions are solved: one just needs to put the passages in their proper context and temporal setting, identify the target audience and the purpose of the statement, and then the apparent fog of logical contradictions disperses.

If you do that, you can see that it was 2000 years ago when Jesus said to His disciples that even He did not know the time of His coming. It seems inconceivable to us that Jesus, who is Himself God, and is now before His Father in the Most Holy Place performing the priestly service and sitting on the right hand of His throne, still has not been informed by His Father. To believe that is ridiculous and even stupid!

So, we have to assume that during His ministry as a human, Jesus did not know the hour, and this for good reason:

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. (Acts 1:6-7)

No, it was not for the first disciples to know the time. It would have been a shocking experience for them to know that the Lord would not have come for nearly another 2000 years, and it would have jeopardized their mission to the utmost.

But Jesus skillfully and simultaneously answered what was pertinent to them, and when the time would come that the day and hour could be known:

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 1:8)

Their task and ours is to witness to the world and this will be done in the power of the Holy Spirit, but at a certain time this Power will guide us into all truth and PROCLAIM THE TIME to us. This is where the present-day "Adventists" like to stop reading and cut short the quote:

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. (John 16:13)

The Holy Spirit is thus showing the future, and when will this moment be? It was not during the outpouring of the early rain at Pentecost in 31 A.D., but the outpouring of the latter rain since 2010 and in increasing manner since January 2013, as we will show in further studies on our website.

It was not even for us to know the exact date of the actual return until January 2013. We had to make the same mistake as the Millerites by being a year too early, so that the people would be warned even more urgently. We would not delay the day too long, like it is said in another statement from Ellen White that you quote. We would be mistaken by only one year, like what already happened once before.

In all arguments against time-setting, you overlook the time in which we live and in which Ellen White lived and what task she had to fulfill. That is why you apply her statements in a wrong manner. We are no longer in front of a wilderness journey of 120 years and we also cannot fulfill the task of giving the third angel's message without the power of the Holy Spirit and another Midnight Cry, because we are part of a devastated and deteriorated adventist church which has nothing to do with the church in 1888. We need His words which show us the future so that we might wake up and start sounding the Loud Cry with power. Anyone who overlooks this not only endangers the church but also the entire mission which Jesus has given us to do, and this means that not only the whole universe, but even God Himself would be subdued by Satan in this final phase of the Great Judgment.

Do you want to risk that and continue to consider my astronomical calculations just "skillful" without verifying the biblical evidence? Will you continue to claim that nothing happened in 2012, even though you yourself wrote in your journal about the persecution that started against faithful servants of the third angel's message like Walter Veith and Hugo Gambetta in exactly the timeframe displayed by Orion for the fifth seal?

How blind must someone be, to not realize that our knowledge as students of the light of the Fourth Angel keeps growing, and that not everything which this light encompasses has been identified yet? That is why we are always getting more precise in reading the two great clocks of God.

One of our next articles will make it abundantly clear that we do not just "look ahead", but that our mission was and is to show the history of the Advent people and their deviation from the plan of God, and even to solve all the time riddles in the Bible with the help of the Holy Spirit. This light began to shine when we realized that we can know not only the date of the death of Jesus on the cross, but even His birthday as a human being, and the creation of Adam to the very day. This knowledge unlocks the entire Bible, and we now understand why only time intervals are given in the Bible but no dates, making it impossible to date the exact chronological course of Bible history even for thousands of scholars. One day, the Holy Spirit would declare not only the future with the day of the coming of Jesus, but would guide us into ALL truth in regard to time.

This truth and the solution to the great biblical questions by a perfect harmony of sabbatical years, jubilee years, and the God-given data in the Scriptures, was the birthday gift that Jesus planned for His true church on October 27, 2012. The Seventh-day Adventist Church, however, rejected this birthday present and preferred to open the deceitfully-wrapped present from the Pope containing the "Creation Sabbath". Will you copy them even though you trust so much in God's guidance through the Spirit of Prophecy, or wouldn't you rather sit down with me and reconsider the quotes of Ellen White and put them into their proper context?

Search the Bible for "books" which are described as not having been deciphered and you will find that there are only two books: the Book of Seven Seals that Jesus began to open in 1846, and the Book of Seven Thunders, which had not yet been written. The Book of Seven Seals is now almost entirely open before us in Orion, but only recently did we come to the point of being able to interpret it correctly. This was planned by God and was not an error of the time-setters. The Book of Seven Thunders, however, was not yet written by John the Revelator because the sun and moon had to follow first their courses from 1841 to 2012, so we could see it written in front of us.

All of these wonderful and profound interpretations are completely overlooked by the anti-time-setters and anti-Adventists. They do not see the glory of God. They do not really enter the Holiest of Holies where Jesus would teach them by His Spirit, and they also do not know what it means to cooperate with God.

They insist on their own obscured (or dark) understanding of the writings of God's messenger, who was sent to prepare a failing and ultimately failed people for a long journey through the wilderness, and finally for a terrible punishment (the fireballs). Only those who recognize that God does nothing without informing His prophets really know God and are His true children. They recognize that He always gives the time before great destruction comes because He does not change and this corresponds to His loving nature. God will not change His character at the conclusion of the work; He has always acted on the principle of progressive time revelation and He continues to do so today.

With this knowledge, let's begin to examine each quote you shared:

From the vision of 1851 in Early Writings

The Lord showed me that the message must go, and that it must not be hung on time; for time will never be a test again. I saw that some were getting a false excitement, arising from preaching time, that the third angel’s message can stand on its own foundation, and that it needs not time to strengthen it, and that it will go with mighty power, and do its work, and will be cut short in righteousness. {1SM 188.3}

Yes, the Lord showed Ellen White in 1851 that the three angels' messages were not to depend on a specific date, because the people were destined to go to heaven in 1890 without the full light of the Fourth Angel. The work was to be "cut short" by the message of "Righteousness by Faith" brought by Waggoner and Jones. If that would have happened, then the time would never have become a test again and the message for the people "would not have needed time to strengthen it."

It did not happen that way, so the Midnight Cry needed to be repeated to give power to the people like in the first Midnight Cry.

The rest of the vision:

“I saw some were making everything bend to this next fall; that is, making their calculations, and disposing of their property in reference to that time. I saw that this was wrong for this reason: instead of going to God daily, and earnestly desiring to know their present duty, they looked ahead, and made their calculations as though they knew that the work would end this fall, without inquiring their duty of God daily. {1SM 188.4} E. G. White. “Copied at Milton, June 29, 1851, A. A. G.” {1SM 189.1}

It was a vision for a wayward group of Adventists who were incorrectly setting the time in the autumn of 1851, and it states the reasons which reveal a wrong motivation of those involved. Our community sincerely asks God daily what our duty is at every single moment. None of us has ever since his baptism neglected to preach the three angels' messages in their entirety. We all follow the health message and the dress code and left the "cities" to live a life in the country, which is what Ellen White counseled.

The daily question about the will of God resulted in God preparing a group of people for a long time to become His mouthpiece. Some of our members saw our studies or our farm in symbolic form through dreams a long time before our paths crossed or they ever knew of us. When they read the studies, sometimes they already knew that they are from God. Then they contacted us to study with us and we checked them with the Bible. Some received dreams and visions from God, as Ellen G. White did, each time we come to a point in our studies where we are unable to progress on our own. Finally, some were instructed by God to come to us to Paraguay and we have warmly received them.

Not only have our studies been given by the Holy Spirit, but He also confirmed our latest articles and the articles that explain the 1335, 1290 and 1260 days. We also received the confirmation that we had received the candlestick when we passed it on the 20th day of our symbolic journey to the Holiest of Holies from the outer court of the heavenly sanctuary.

Through the Holy Spirit we learned the date when the latter rain began to be poured out on others to a greater extent. A short time later, on the eve of the Sabbath of January 5, 2013, the entire group was given the light that our calculations thus far contained an error of exactly one year. Like Sister White had once seen in vision, the Lord deliberately held his hand over this error so that we would warn the SDA Church before their grace period ended, which we did in the spring of 2012 according to the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

In our calculations we had not considered the year of plagues to be separate from the Judgment of the Living, so we had overlooked the fact that there are two overlapping time periods for the Judgment of the Living and the Time of Trouble, which both occupy three and a half years. The time of trouble consists of the small time of trouble and the great time of trouble, and only the great time of trouble includes the plagues. All of this is exactly displayed in Orion and the Vessel of Time; we had only committed a reading error, and that because of divine will.

Because we daily seek God's will and were ready to leave the convenience of our homes, and many of us even their families, to serve the cause of God, on January 5, 2013 we received all the light on the time message and started to amend the relevant articles and studies according to God's instruction. We wondered if this might have something to do with the sealing (see {EW.14.1}), because obviously so far we hadn't known the day and hour, even though we thought so. None of us, however, had previously claimed to be sealed! That is something no one of us would presume without divine confirmation.

Last night, on January 9, 2013, we happened to find that this was all a fulfillment of a prophecy of Ellen G. White, which many did not even recognize as a prophecy...

At the commencement of the holy Sabbath, January 5, 1849, we engaged in prayer with Brother Belden’s family at Rocky Hill, Connecticut, and the Holy Ghost fell upon us. I was taken off in vision to the most holy place, where I saw Jesus still interceding for Israel. On the bottom of His garment was a bell and a pomegranate. Then I saw that Jesus would not leave the most holy place until every case was decided either for salvation or destruction, and that the wrath of God could not come until Jesus had finished His work in the most holy place, laid off His priestly attire, and clothed Himself with the garments of vengeance. Then Jesus will step out from between the Father and man, and God will keep silence no longer, but pour out His wrath on those who have rejected His truth. I saw that the anger of the nations, the wrath of God, and the time to judge the dead were separate and distinct, one following the other, also that Michael had not stood up, and that the time of trouble, such as never was, had not yet commenced. The nations are now getting angry, but when our High Priest has finished His work in the sanctuary, He will stand up, put on the garments of vengeance, and then the seven last plagues will be poured out. {EW 36.1}

Although we all knew this vision, we had still included the plagues in the three-a-half-year period of the Judgment of the Living, and we can only explain this today by the fact that God had really kept His hand over this issue.

Note the date of the vision: It was January 5, 1849, exactly 164 years before January 5, 2013, when we got the light on this aspect of the time, and were thus able to finally see the exact day of the coming of Jesus. The time difference between the vision of Ellen White and the coming of Jesus in the fall of 2016 is exactly 168 years in the Jewish way of counting, and corresponds to the 168 years that were found in the vision of Daniel 12, which is what provided the key to deciphering the Orion Clock.

The last paragraph of this vision of Ellen G. White is as follows:

I asked my accompanying angel the meaning of what I heard, and what the four angels were about to do. He said to me that it was God that restrained the powers, and that He gave His angels charge over things on the earth; that the four angels had power from God to hold the four winds, and that they were about to let them go; but while their hands were loosening, and the four winds were about to blow, the merciful eye of Jesus gazed on the remnant that were not sealed, and He raised His hands to the Father and pleaded with Him that He had spilled His blood for them. Then another angel was commissioned to fly swiftly to the four angels and bid them hold, until the servants of God were sealed with the seal of the living God in their foreheads. {EW 38.2}

A "remnant" is spoken of "that were not sealed." Consequently, on January 5, 2013 which fulfilled this prophetic vision of Ellen G. White there must have been a group of people that day that were sealed. Thus, our question was answered as to whether we now knew the correct date. It was also finally answered whether or not we had been accepted as the "jury in the courtroom of God," for Ellen G. White even called this famous vision "The Sealing."

Who would have shining faces, if not the ones having these experiences with God?

Soon we [see Appendix.] heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus’ coming. The living saints, 144,000 in number, knew and understood the voice, while the wicked thought it was thunder and an earthquake. When God spoke the time, He poured upon us the Holy Ghost, and our faces began to light up and shine with the glory of God, as Moses’ did when he came down from Mount Sinai. {EW 14.1}

The 144,000 were all sealed and perfectly united. On their foreheads was written, God, New Jerusalem, and a glorious star containing Jesus’ new name. {EW 15.1}

On our foreheads is written:

  1. "God" our Father, for whom we have vowed to witness, and for whom we have given up everything.
  2. "New Jerusalem" in the open space in Orion, where our home is, and whereto we will soon be traveling with Jesus.
  3. And we know the "glorious star containing Jesus’ new name," Alnitak.

Are these the people of whom Ellen White says in her anti-time-setting vision of June 1851:

Instead of going to God daily, and earnestly desiring to know their present duty, they looked ahead, and made their calculations as though they knew that the work would end this fall, without inquiring their duty of God daily. {1SM 188.4}

We must not make the mistake of tearing quotes away from their temporal context to apply them to groups of people who were not in any way the target audience of the text. We will soon write more in the Gift of Prophecy section about the restoration of the Spirit of Prophecy in our midst through the sons and daughters and the servants and handmaidens (Acts 2:17). You are wrong to say that Ernie Knoll was a false prophet from the beginning. Because of pride and greed he did not fulfill his mission and has placed himself over God, like Satan did. Ernie Knoll fits the Biblical type of Balaam, who wanted to curse the people but could only pronounce blessings. So Ernie Knoll had worked a long time for God, but when he grew vain his dreams became mingled with messages of Satan. Discernment had to be exercised. On a specific day in 2010, Ernie Knoll had the last dream which was completely from God, but up to this day his dreams still contain certain blessings for us. Then he surrendered himself more and more to his new master. Therefore, another group of people was appointed in God's service that received dreams and visions by the Holy Spirit  after he had received that last dream that contained an errorfree message for us. Nothing happens by chance in God's plan, and everything happens according to the great holy Clock of Time, which we are privileged to read.

The question of the end of probation

Letters have come to me asking me if I have any special light as to the time when probation will close; and I answer that I have only this message to bear, that it is now time to work while the day lasts, for the night cometh in which no man can work. Now, just now, it is time for us to be watching, working, and waiting....But there is no command for anyone to search the Scripture in order to ascertain, if possible, when probation will close. God has no such message for any mortal lips. He would have no mortal tongue declare that which He has hidden in His secret councils.—The Review and Herald, October 9, 1894. {1SM 191.2}

Your second quote falls by the same rationale, with a few more considerations. This time we are in the period after 1890 after the major disappointment of Minneapolis had already taken place. The Adventist Church was guilty of having missed the mark as far as going to the Kingdom was concerned. Ellen G. White was even "banished" to Australia and had to endure the hostility of the brethren. Many who were still on her side remembered her prophecies of a quick, cut-short end and wanted to know what was going on, so they inquired about the end of probation. Ellen G. White came under increasing pressure because in 1894 she already realized that the church would probably not enter into the heavenly Canaan for a long and indefinite time. This weighed heavily on her. She could no longer comfort the people, but had to preach what God had said: "I have only one message to proclaim"... "it is not for you to know the times or seasons which the Father has put in his power."

And yet... the Lord gave her words of consolation for those who understand how to interpret prophetic statements correctly.

She said that now was the "day" in which they were to work: The heavenly day of 168 years for the Judgment of the Dead. The "night, when no one can work" refers to the great time of trouble. And in between is the little time of trouble which overlaps with the Judgment of the Living, during which those who are sealed, by definition, will no longer be "mortal". Indeed, no "mortal tongue" ever proclaims the correct time of the second coming of Jesus, which God the Father only reveals to His jury, keeping it secret from all others which will only hear thunder. We were also still "mortals" until January 5, 2013, since we had not proclaimed the right time due to the fact that our study included a tiny error of exactly one year. If we can believe that we are one of the 144,000, then we are by definition no longer mortal, because this group of people will not see death before Jesus comes and takes them to the Holy City:

Moses was present to represent those who will be raised from the dead at the second appearing of Jesus. And Elijah, who was translated without seeing death, represented those who will be changed to immortality at Christ’s second coming and will be translated to heaven without seeing death. The disciples beheld with astonishment and fear the excellent majesty of Jesus and the cloud that overshadowed them, and heard the voice of God in terrible majesty, saying, “This is My beloved Son; hear Him.” {EW 164.3}

Is it presumptuous of us to assume that we are now one of the 144,000? In general, can a person ever know that he is one of the 144,000?

Ellen G. White answers that question decisively:

It is not His will that they shall get into controversy over questions which will not help them spiritually, such as, Who is to compose the hundred and forty-four thousand? This those who are the elect of God will in a short time know without question.—Selected Messages 1:174 (1901). {LDE 269.1}

As we have learned, the sealing is knowing the time, and the seal itself is "God, New Jerusalem and the star containing the new name of Jesus." Those who know the new name of Jesus and call upon it (bear it on their forehead) are sealed.

Satan has a counter-doctrine against every new light from God to obscure the new light so that it cannot penetrate into the hearts of men.

Satan has been stirring up the winds of doctrine against the person of the Holy Spirit in the last few years and there has been a revival of anti-Trinitarianism in our ranks like never before. The Message of the Fourth Angel is precisely the message of Christ, delivered by the Person of the Holy Spirit. Orion and the Vessel of Time both show the triple throne of God. Orion does so through the three belt stars and the Vessel of Time by the year triplets. Anyone who denies the Person of the Holy Spirit cannot accept these studies.

The teaching of the feast-keepers among us, who argue that we must keep the Jewish holy days again in order to be sealed, darkens the light that the fulfillment of the feast days is the noblest way of observing the holy days. Jesus fulfilled the spring feasts through His death on the cross, thereby doing away with all holding of the feasts, and He replaced it with the Lord's Supper. He is above the feast days that He Himself instituted, because He fulfilled part of it. He was the forerunner of Hebrews 6:20 and we follow after Him as adventists fulfilling the heavenly Day of Atonement since 1844. However, it is left for the last generation to fulfill the rest of the fall feasts. This is especially shown in the Vessel of Time where God showed that the Feast of Trumpets was fulfilled by the Midnight Cry of the Millerite movement and that the Day of Atonement was fulfilled by the long journey of the Adventist Church until 2010. Now only the fulfillment of the Feast of Tabernacles is left, through our endurance in the great time of trouble without an advocate, and Jesus Himself will fulfill the Last Great Day (Shemini Atzeret) when He comes to take His people home. So far no feast-keeper has accepted the studies because Satan has seduced them into pure legalism which closes their eyes to the great and nobler truths.

The Lunar Sabbath was invented by Satan to hide the teaching of the High Sabbaths patterned after John 19:31. Ellen White said that we would "proclaim the Sabbath more fully" at the beginning of the time of trouble. Note that she said it would be before the little time of trouble, which will start very soon now, and before the plagues. The Vessel of Time is nothing other than a list of all possible High Sabbaths throughout the history of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, which gives us a lot of information about the seven stages of the purification of God's people. No lunar Sabbath keeper can understand or accept the High Sabbath List, also known as the Book of Seven Thunders, because for them every ceremonial Sabbath is automatically a High Sabbath. We know, however, that a High Sabbath only occurs when a ceremonial Sabbath falls on a seventh-day Sabbath. The truth is obscured by this large-scale campaign of Satan.

His masterpiece, however, is a teaching that has emerged just recently. Many Adventists are using the "sacred names" again. They are called the "Sacred Name Movement." They teach that only the originally and correctly pronounced names of Jesus (Yeshua) and the Father (Yahweh) have the power to reach God's ear. They also drift from this into a false legalism and they are definitely using the old name, instead of the prophesied new name for the King of kings and Lord of lords. The Father Himself, however, has revealed in Orion, the Book of Seven Seals, the new name of Jesus, which must now be known by all who would belong to the 144,000, for the prophecy of Ellen G. White says that they will bear this name on their foreheads.

In Paraguay, there are seven people who have been selected by God as leaders of the church of the 144,000. They are the seven stars that Ellen White saw at the head of the purified Adventist church. When soon it will have become clear for the deaf and blind Adventists that the prophecies have come true, this small handful of people will rapidly increase in number, even though there are so few today who have accepted these truths. Nevertheless, the people who had received so much light through Ellen White, since they were already baptized into the truth as Adventists and had the opportunity to see what the Fourth Angel's message entails earlier than anyone else, will be bitterly disappointed because to atone for their guilt of rejecting the new light, the only remaining way for them is the way of martyrdom. The rest of the workers of the eleventh hour will—as Ellen White has prophesied—come from those called out from Babylon. What a shame to a twice-failing people that had received so much favor and light from the Lord through the work of His messenger, Ellen G. White.

His people have never unearthed the treasures from the 100,000 pages of her writings and have only scratched the surface of the misunderstood statements against time setting. They were too lazy to get their hands dirty with diligent digging and to take a stand against the Ecumenical Movement, which is also against time-setting. Satan's secret service, the Jesuits, know that one day the time will be well known to the people of God, for even Satan knows the time, because he knows that his time is short. Yet Jesus Himself who is the Lord of Time does not know the time? How ridiculous this all is, if you think about it more deeply! The Jesuits that the Adventists have approved in their ranks have converted the vast majority of them into anti-Adventists in the years of wandering in the wilderness. Today they do not know who the true fanatics are.

Anti-time-setting is the greatest weapon of Satan against the true people of God, the 144,000 that must be SEALED by the knowledge of the time. False prophets like Harold Camping, etc. or fictional prophecies like the Mayan calendar or crop circles are sent everywhere to repute all time-setting as ridiculousness. When has humanity ever felt as safe as today, a few weeks after decades of hyped-up 2012 hysteria, thinking that "peace and security" will reign for a long time?

And what does the Bible say about this time right after Satan's largest anti-time-setting campaign ever?

For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (1 Thessalonians 5:3)

And God points out in the very next verse that at precisely that time there will be people who know the time:

But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. (1 Thessalonians 5:4)

Do you really need the rug to be pulled out from under you and probation to close before you understand that you've built on the sand by your misunderstandings of the statements of Ellen G. White that you never tried to harmonize?

For those who fall in Satan's established traps and get lost in years-long discussions about the nature of Jesus, the nature of the Holy Spirit, a moon-dependent Sabbath, the correct pronunciation of the Hebrew name of God, the Mayan calendar, crop circles and ponder for weeks about whether you can feed the birds on the window sill with the leftover crumbs that still contain yeast from your pre-Passover house cleaning, the messenger of God has two more quotes, which you also misapplied against us:

Satan is ever ready to fill the mind with theories and calculations that will divert men from the present truth, and disqualify them for the giving of the third angel’s message to the world. {RH March 22, 1892, par. 4}

We are in continual danger of getting above the simplicity of the gospel. There is an intense desire on the part of many to startle the world with something original, that shall lift the people into a state of spiritual ecstasy, and change the present order of experience. {RH March 22, 1892, par. 6}

On the contrary, we see in Orion Jesus Himself. He IS the Clock and He IS the Gospel. His wounds which healed us are pleading for us in Orion. Ellen White also saw it in vision:

I saw four angels who had a work to do on the earth, and were on their way to accomplish it. Jesus was clothed with priestly garments. He gazed in pity on the remnant, then raised His hands, and with a voice of deep pity cried, “My blood, Father, My blood, My blood, My blood!” Then I saw an exceeding bright light come from God, who sat upon the great white throne, and was shed all about Jesus. Then I saw an angel with a commission from Jesus, swiftly flying to the four angels who had a work to do on the earth, and waving something up and down in his hand, and crying with a loud voice, “Hold! Hold! Hold! Hold! until the servants of God are sealed in their foreheads.” {EW 38.1}

If the history of the Adventist Church, which is presented to us in Orion and the Vessel of Time is not the third angel's message, but something new that moves us through spiritual ecstasy, then we have not understood what the third angel's message really is. Ellen White said that the light of the Fourth Angel would be "old light brought up and placed in new settings". For any student of the history of the Adventist Church, which is recorded in the two books of God in Orion and the Vessel of Time, it is obvious that it is not about something new and fantastic, but about something old and wonderful that we have never seen before from God's perspective.

A time message never again?

Let's look at the rest of your anti-time-setting quotes from the wonderful Spirit of Prophecy, whose true meaning is still completely hidden for many.

Again and again have I been warned in regard to time setting. There will never again be a message for the people of God that will be based on time. We are not to know the definite time either for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit or for the coming of Christ. {1SM 188.1}

This is the beginning of the vision of Ellen White, the origin of all the other quotes. The context and time frame in which this conditional prophecy was set has already been described in detail. No, the Advent people did not meet the condition for entrance into the New Jerusalem in 1890, when it would have been possible for them without a repetition of the Midnight Cry. At the General Conference of Minneapolis in 1888, the Holy Spirit was poured out and the Advent people paid it little notice, just like the outpouring since 2010 and January 5, 2013. The prophecy of Ellen White was not fulfilled due to the stubbornness of the people of God.

The Lord has shown me that the message of the third angel must go, and be proclaimed to the scattered children of the Lord, but it must not be hung on time. {EW 75.1}

This is also an endlessly repeated derivative of the short original vision of Ellen G. White from 1851, which appears in umpteen collections of quotations, and does not help. It doesn't get longer, it doesn't get truer, and neither will it fulfill, because it was conditional and the people prevented its completion forever.

The end of prophetic time

This time, which the angel declares with a solemn oath, is not the end of this world’s history, neither of probationary time, but of prophetic time, which should precede the advent of our Lord. That is, the people will not have another message upon definite time. After this period of time, reaching from 1842 to 1844, there can be no definite tracing of the prophetic time. The longest reckoning reaches to the autumn of 1844. {7BC 971.7}

Some were led into the error of repeatedly fixing upon a definite time for the coming of Christ. The light which was now shining on the subject of the sanctuary should have shown them that no prophetic period extends to the second advent; that the exact time of this advent is not foretold. But, turning from the light, they continued to set time after time for the Lord to come, and as often they were disappointed. {GC 456.1}

In the article The Power of the Father, I detail the difference between the prophetic period that Ellen White mentioned here, and the time as shown in the oath of the man over the river in Daniel 12. "Prophetic Time" is a number of days specified by a prophet which are fulfilled in an appropriate context with a specific beginning. In the oath of Daniel 12, no single number is given, but the prophet is presented a pictorial representation, which first has to be reinterpreted from the Biblical symbolism yielding a formula that later leads to a number that the prophet did not even see, which can then be converted according to the day-year principle. But this conversion will not help if you do not have the Book of Seven Seals in Orion to put the number in the context of the heavenly day with the hour-marks of 7 earthly years per heavenly hour.

Elsewhere Ellen White even said that there is not one single image or parable in the Bible that is sufficient to know the day of the coming of Jesus. And she was right again. Without astronomy and the seven stars of Orion, the image of Daniel 12 cannot be put in its proper context and without the Vessel of Time, which was written by the sun and moon according to the God-given rules of the Jewish holy days, we would not be able to find the day of the coming of Jesus. The Bible gives us the evidence of the two other books that were sealed until recently, but the books themselves cannot be found in the Bible.  They are found elsewhere, as Ellen White said. They are written where the Bible and the Gospel of John begin. They were written by the Word of God in the firmament of creation, and this can only be understood by the "wise that shall shine as the stars" (Dan. 12:3).

The first casket of William Miller was the Bible. This is symbolized by the standard dimensions of a Bible at the beginning of Miller's dream. Ellen White had this dream reprinted in Early Writings and classified it as coming from God.

I dreamed that God, by an unseen hand, sent me a curiously wrought casket about ten inches long by six square, made of ebony and pearls curiously inlaid. To the casket there was a key attached. I immediately took the key and opened the casket, when, to my wonder and surprise, I found it filled with all sorts and sizes of jewels, diamonds, precious stones, and gold and silver coin of every dimension and value, beautifully arranged in their several places in the casket; and thus arranged they reflected a light and glory equaled only to the sun. {EW 81.2}

In the dream, the gems of William Miller, his biblical discoveries, are dirtied and discarded. This was excessively fulfilled in the history of the Adventist Church. When he goes into despair, a man appears who brings everything back to order. It must be a man who would carry on the studies of William Miller and make them shine in a new light.

Who could this second man be, who carried on Miller's deciphering of the year of Jesus' death from the seventy-week prophecy of Daniel 9:24, even determining the exact date on the day of His death?

Who could this second man be, who saw not only the confirmation of the prophecy of the beginning of the Judgment of Daniel 8:14, but also decrypted Daniel 12 and thus found both the end of the judgment and the duration of both phases of the Judgment of the living and the dead?

Who could this second man be, who would sound the true Midnight Cry, which this time would not end in a big disappointment?

Who could this second man be, who could prove that both the sanctuary doctrine, and the first Midnight Cry are recorded in two heavenly books, wherein William Miller has a very special place?

This second man, who has a different "casket," is described at the end of Miller's dream as follows:

He then placed on the table a casket, much larger and more beautiful than the former, and gathered up the jewels, the diamonds, the coins, by the handful, and cast them into the casket, till not one was left, although some of the diamonds were not bigger than the point of a pin. {EW 83.6}
I looked into the casket, but my eyes were dazzled with the sight. They shone with ten times their former glory. I thought they had been scoured in the sand by the feet of those wicked persons who had scattered and trod them in the dust. They were arranged in beautiful order in the casket, every one in its place, without any visible pains of the man who cast them in. I shouted with very joy, and that shout awoke me. {EW 83.8}

What book (casket) could be "larger and more beautiful" than the Bible where Miller found his "gems," mentioned in the first paragraph of his dream? Is there such a book here on earth? Do you think that it could possibly be the Koran or the Book of Mormon or even Hitler's "Mein Kampf"? No, there is only one book that is greater than the Bible itself. It is the book that frames the Throne of God, where Jesus stands before the Father and pleads with His wounds... Orion, the Book of Seven Seals.

To oppose these wonderful truths, the old light in new settings, with misapplied quotes from Ellen White such as the following, equals to spiritual bigotry and blindness:

The more frequently a definite time is set for the second advent, and the more widely it is taught, the better it suits the purposes of Satan. After the time has passed, he excites ridicule and contempt of its advocates, and thus casts reproach upon the great advent movement of 1843 and 1844. Those who persist in this error will at last fix upon a date too far in the future for the coming of Christ. Thus they will be led to rest in a false security, and many will not be undeceived until it is too late. {GC 457.1}

The second Miller "casts no reproach" but rather "ten times its former glory" "upon the great advent movement of 1843 and 1844," which is represented in the Vessel of Time as the first triplet of years.

And now with brotherly love, I ask you one final question. Do you honestly believe that we are "fixing upon a date too far in the future for the coming of Christ" and that Jesus will come even earlier than autumn 2016?

May God bless you and give you the Latter Rain in abundance so that soon you may also know if you are one of the chosen 144,000.

John Scotram, your brother in the Lord Jesus Christ, bearing the new name "Alnitak", meaning "the wounded one."

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